tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-58980612011-12-31T13:33:33.712+11:00Towards better understanding, cooperation and respect. (Currently providing links to sites with competent responses to reducing Victoria's high disaster risk levels - Feb 2009)journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comBlogger301100tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-11786575259176080252011-12-30T08:55:00.001+11:002011-12-30T08:56:13.235+11:00

Some people find it so hard to make decisions,  they don't make them .

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-6627591535755020392010-04-08T10:02:00.000+10:002010-04-08T10:02:48.090+10:00

NEWS Emergenecy services not ready - Christine Nixon thinks she can leave the building ! ( Revelation at Royal commission this week). Noone who has ever worked a bushfire would accept it for the person in her position ! SHE'S OUTA THERE WHEN SHE CAN'T LEAVE TILL THOSE AT RISK ARE OUTA THERE . For another revelation - (yet,  to come we trust) ( A word that should have been in pace for last

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-36282959708830207822009-10-27T13:09:00.003+11:002009-10-27T13:31:39.438+11:00

Everybody is talking about fireplans but where are they ? Went looking for some examples on Google Images, but could find few . So here's one I prepared earlier for a worksite in the bush . Send me an email if you want to know more , or do you own HERE

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-35047033194502237232009-08-19T09:51:00.007+10:002009-09-05T17:54:24.446+10:00

While the Commission fails to get the disaster paradigm of February Fires into perspective, many of the interim recommendations are welcome ( see below )eg Support strongly1-4,16,17,38,39,44.Point is, if the Commission can't say that "we have a problem because we are not allowed to say to people "you are living in an impossible risk situation" we will still have the problem. What do you expect

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-85004271784573982212009-07-02T09:41:00.006+10:002009-07-02T10:00:12.567+10:00

Some very welcome positive responses from the Commision, Today . Today's announcements regarding improved approaches to risk management seem to be based on sound reflection on what happened on Black Saturday and a recognition of some critical but lying dormant institutional weaknesses identified below . All we want is common sense and les control freaks . Most welcome is the challenge to make

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-30383425354098418412009-06-12T06:41:00.008+10:002009-06-14T06:47:18.080+10:00

But the nature of them. Mr Russell Rees has been reported in the Media as claimimg that there were "enough warnings" .It would be a double tragedy ,if after losing so many people because we are not warning them well , if the inquiry itself gets lost in some of the excuses; in identifying the wolf warriors, but not when, and to where, its best to call them.One of risks for the commission is to not

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-32634785625630004112009-03-07T07:40:00.019+11:002009-06-12T07:56:45.632+10:00

Proclaiming nature's so called "moral imperatives" is a highly effective way of keeping an audience for simple minded idealogues. Problem is, in the real world - it doesn't work because no such direct connection exists. Things are little less direct- no one system dominates another .Cooperation is in order. Real world environmental management requires respect for unity in diversity - something

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-86229868681106537612009-02-23T14:46:00.003+11:002009-02-23T14:52:20.311+11:00

Know what slopes you are on -every person living in rural Victoria should know just where they are ; because the winds and land are predictable features to plan with .see here

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-61428310360331750202009-02-23T10:02:00.004+11:002009-02-23T12:56:58.197+11:00

How did so many people lose their lives on Feb 7th? Clearly the warnings about the danger were totally inadequate ! If you are going to be effective in warning people, you have to aim very clearly at the real and current high risk factors. Miss the target even slightly , and you lose the attention of those at risk. This blog is about the real problem of noise (mixed messages) and how it was a

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-25384795523893662752009-02-13T10:35:00.013+11:002009-02-16T10:04:18.105+11:00

Telling others about risk is a touchy matter. Do it well, and you are likely to get your hand bitten off . Do it poorly and the person at risk is likely to get more than their hands lost. This blog explores timing as well as content ; volume as well as substance . Cry wolf and you get unecessary deaths . How much crying wolf is going on ? We think we know what other people need to do/know, but

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-45202308454677253612009-02-13T10:31:00.007+11:002009-02-25T11:39:59.414+11:00

While the Departments argue over who gets what resources and, perhaps, who knows more about fire management? , how about asking the question of whether the people at risk know enough . Its Not about who knows more about fire management but about whether the people at risk KNOW enough .For example "What % of those killed didn't even have the basic expectation that a fire would come at them first

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-19510872177548719012009-02-13T10:17:00.003+11:002009-02-16T09:39:40.385+11:00

If you choose to be against the bush on such days as Black saturday , why should someone risk their lives trying to drive to you or protect your assets? If we must have a plan - get it approved ! Now there is bureaucracy for you. Soon people would not ask for a permit they would realise there is no safety in your own plan when noone should be against the bush on the northernslopes on a TFB day

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-39985219095037867142009-02-13T10:01:00.011+11:002009-02-17T23:24:57.438+11:00

DSE should have been justifying where grazing, mowing and removal or lopping of Native vegetation should require a permit---- not the other way around. ( Since NVR came in , its just been a hamfisted moving feast of regulations aimed at increased review and decreased access ; a huge body of bush picnic that's now large enough to confuse a queens councillor dedicated to try and understand it )

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-36000498932972295102009-02-13T09:56:00.003+11:002009-02-13T10:30:54.028+11:00

More radio , training services and less Elvis What do you think? All governments have a difficult choice when it comes to expenditure on risk management . Too many concentrate on solving problems as they arise --the rushing in approach The biggest burden to the budget over the last few years must be Elvis and his mates .Looks impressive but where else should the money be spent. What do you

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-76769320165107280922009-02-12T23:59:00.009+11:002009-02-17T23:28:03.795+11:00

If you warn everybody about everything all the time you warn nobody in real risk. 774 should not be advertising itself as the fount of all knowledge . The lack of prior advertising of specific warnings for local areas and stations dedicated to constant fire updates ( such as Otway FM) did not help. The messages should have been much clearer and more specific . Previous blog item says it as well

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-42525478104068231372009-02-12T23:20:00.011+11:002009-02-13T00:11:01.056+11:00

The notion that you can stay near bush when you live on the northern slopes is complete rubbish, so why did both agnecies support the namby pamby ADS to " have your own plan" to save yourself. Confusion created by a forced sense of unity about how to manage risks . As if all risk is the same everywhere. They talk diversity but have no idea how to maintain it as an effective force in

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-39700999854212195612009-02-12T23:06:00.010+11:002009-02-16T10:08:56.935+11:00

With 2 agencies fighting over the same territory, how can one of them be totally responsible ? Who should do you believe and what warnings are appropriate in the different territories .Is really good advice being lost in attempt to create consensus . Is consensus risking diversity and responsibility? The CFA favor the plan ( because most farms can reduce fuel loads ) while DSE used to favor

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-48855905405333301512009-02-12T12:52:00.008+11:002009-02-12T23:49:35.615+11:00

Time the B government ditched the children in charge ;those who still fall for "me first" approach to management in health care . Time the post modern dummies who advocate "your birth plan" and "your fire plan"' got the flick . Time the parliament asked agin whether it is ACTUALLY into planning or fire fighting. Professional health care advice needs to be dominant in the discusssion -

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-1166214279738917812006-12-16T06:47:00.000+11:002006-12-16T07:40:03.743+11:00

Like all health advocates we support ,to a man, the need for massive firefighting effort when lives are at risk .But like all health profesionals, we mustn't allow the present crisis to prevent us from preventing the next one .Will the massive expenditure on attempted fire control and the technological wizardry of the new milleneum prevent something bigger than 1939 from happening? Will the

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-1142423175763832292006-03-15T22:46:00.000+11:002006-03-15T22:46:15.796+11:00

When will this forest burn, and what will grow after it does ? 

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-1139138291082529952006-02-05T22:18:00.000+11:002006-02-05T22:18:11.173+11:00

I will find the 1939 maps and put it up > for now . this is our locality  

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-1108977852586495232005-02-21T20:22:00.000+11:002005-02-21T20:24:12.586+11:00

From Tony Sutcliffe ( Canberra Times)Eminent jurist, Allan Myers QC summed up the situation with his scathingreview of the Victorian Inquiry: "the terms of reference for the EsplinInquiry were deficient, being too vague, generalized and unfocussed and, atthe same time too narrow.... Matters which the terms of reference ought tohave addressed include land use practices of Parks Victoria,

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-1087789988553109962004-06-21T13:43:00.000+10:002004-06-21T13:53:08.553+10:00

I don't know why Canberra and feds are so fussed about having big expensive enquiries into Bushfires out of control. According to emminent Wentworth's group (Flannery) and Bob Brown in the past weeks the thing to focus on is "global warming"( like perths water supply etc etc ) . No excuses mate--- thats what we should blame What the people are not sure about though, like the people in "the day

Malleebullhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05075299132226605993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-1085392938332159982004-05-24T19:59:00.000+10:002004-05-24T20:02:18.333+10:00

A meeting involving people prememinent in the fields of applied botany and land management addressed a country audience last week to encourage them to continue as they knew what they were talkingabout . That this meeting express its great dissatisfaction with the preemphory and unscientific discussion as presented by the Esplin Inquiry. (4) That a small delegation led by Athol Hodgson is

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-1083899568221144882004-05-07T13:12:00.000+10:002004-05-07T13:17:15.653+10:00

Been a lot of burning this year , because the government is learning .Fair way to go before they could really do what integrated planners used to do - look after the environmnet . Pity all this learning and burning is at the publics expense and a few wannabe s whims > Parliament supports a complete downgrading of the old LCC / VEAC independance - its independance is not constitutionally

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-1078801495801133452004-03-09T14:04:00.000+11:002004-03-09T14:08:02.326+11:00

Beat the blinkered bookkeepers How do we bridge the gap created between professionals by blinkered accountants with a careless competition theme?. How about calling ourselves production ecologists The problem is not the professionals - its those who would seek to manage them on a two column ledger. Help bridge the gap between those who see themselves working in one or other camp when their real

Malleebullhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05075299132226605993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-1076543852178587492004-02-12T10:57:00.000+11:002004-02-12T11:00:02.843+11:00

Protection work esp Fire . The Fire service waits around for a call - and its not coming .the coolest january on record and the troops are getting itchy feet . its costly and the myopic meddlers could now target it for cost cutting ! . But are our myopic meedling bookeeping mandarins helping . in the big picture sense no! - they go from funding one reactive "fire" to another - a real fire

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-1068709631310272672003-11-13T18:47:00.000+11:002003-11-13T18:47:16.290+11:00

The Federal fire enquiry (Aust) heard lots of angry voices, but did they get the message and punch it home. My reaction: Not tough enough mates !. Maybe they, like the States are too caught up in the heavenly minded chanting of nativists preservation doctrines to notice that such things are often no earthly use when it comes to practical biodiversity protection. Most importantly, unless

Malleebullhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05075299132226605993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-1066136825528360052003-10-14T23:07:00.000+10:002003-10-14T23:09:59.966+10:00

Esplins report --learning or just reacting? "Bracks government is not at fault , its staff and volunteers did very well but they need to talk to each other more ". Tell us something we don't know! Every indication the government is as behind and reactive as ever. At one end of the state they are in the very process of removing the very experience they are calling for in the east from the

journeymanjnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5898061.post-1065301683495629282003-10-05T07:08:00.000+10:002003-10-05T07:08:03.573+10:00

Sydney Conference October supports competency stand to avoid lockouts ABC News 4 Oct

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